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Has anyone tried Laser Hair Removal

Question:
I would like to introduce myself, I am a MTF TS in RLT and on hormones in my 40's... I have tried regular electrolysis, thermoelectrolysis (I think it is called that) and laser hair removal. When I first tried the laser hair removal, they required me to grow my facial hair out to a quarter of an inch. Then they waxed and tweezed the remaining hair, which was painful, but not as painful as electro. Since then they have refined the method where one grows the hair out to 1 to 2 mm...they apply a carbon based lotion and do two treatments. The results I have achieved so far are good and it is much less painful than regular electrolysis. Has anyone else tried this method. For further info their website is at: http://www.beautythruhealth.com . My regrowth has been about the same as regular electro. I would like to hear from others who have tried this new method.


Answer:
-I've been getting treated by the epi light. The results are very good though it does require multiple treatments over a few months to get there... One difference though is they don't require hair growth they actually shave the area if the hair is over 1/8 inch. It is painful though and has taken me as much as 5 days for my skin to recover. -Yours is the second report I've seen from someone treated with Thermolase's so-called SoftLight 2.0 method. Recently I heard from a genetic female who paid $2,500 CDN for a series of up to five treatments to remove her facial hair. Thus far, she has had only one treatment, after which she claims to have "noticed absolutely no hair loss whatsoever." She claims that when she pointed this out to the technician, she was told that subsequent treatments would remove the hair. She reported that her treatment session involved three separate laser irradiations, the second of which was quite painful: "At this point I did feel quite a bit of discomfort. When the laser was on my cheeks, I could feel pain shooting up to my molars. The nurse had to stop a few times. It felt like I was being pounded on the side of my face." She is no longer optimistic about the outcome of the multiple treatments, but I suspect she will continue with them, since she has paid for them. I have seen zero evidence proving that SoftLight 2.0 results will last longer than SoftLight 1.0 results. Here is what I have learned about SoftLight 2.0 through my ongoing investigation: I first learned that a change in the method was planned, from this passage in a brokerage firm's analysis of Thermolase's stock: "We believe the company is working hard to bring its retreatment rate down. Currently the cycle is approximately 12 weeks. TLZ thinks it has identified the means to reduce this cycle to once or twice per year. Such improvement should boost revenues as the client base grows and appreciates the need for fewer treatments. As well, once or twice per year presents a recurring revenue stream." That was issued on 20 May 97, by Lehman Bros., a large U.S. brokerage and investment banking firm, which has a close business relationship with Thermolase. Notice that they were not claiming that the new method would result in permanent hair loss, but instead would reduce the frequency of re-treatment. In fact, they extol the virtues of the recurring revenue stream. Thermolase first mentioned the new method in a press release on 28 July, calling it SoftLight 2.0: "We are excited about the prospects for SoftLight(SM) 2.0, which will be introduced shortly, and, based on our research to date, we believe it will increase the efficacy of our process," said John Hansen, president and chief executive officer of ThermoLase. "We expect SoftLight 2.0 to generate improvements in operations that should reduce the company's operating losses beginning in the first quarter of 1998, leading to our goal of achieving profitability during fiscal 1998." Hansen was pretty unequivocal that SoftLight 2.0 would soon be released, and seemed to express no doubts about its benefits, however vague he might have been. But just three days later, in their quarterly filing to the SEC (U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission) they said this: "The Company continues to pursue an extensive research and development program to improve the efficacy and duration of its hair-removal treatment. The Company is currently testing a modification to its procedure, called SoftLight 2.0, that has had positive laboratory results. Although the laboratory results are encouraging, the results are preliminary and there can be no assurance that SoftLight 2.0 will be successful in improving the hair-removal process. If the initial laboratory results relating to SoftLight 2.0 are confirmed, the Company anticipates implementing the procedure in early fiscal 1998. The Company believes that improvements in the hair-removal procedure, including the successful implementation of SoftLight 2.0, are critical elements in its ability to improve the profitability of its business." So to the SEC, they were not nearly so confident of the benefits of SoftLight 2.0. And notice that the method was still being tested, and would be introduced early in fiscal 1998 only if the laboratory tests were confirmed. For your information, their fiscal year begins on 1 October. But the exact same statement appears in a share registration filed with the SEC on 27 August 97. So as late as one month before the start of the quarter, they supposedly still were not certain that the process works. Then on 22 Sep, in a press-release announcing the opening of their Chicago Spa Thira, there was this brief reference to the new method: "We're pleased to bring the full range of Spa Thira services, including our improved SoftLight 2.0 process, to consumers in this important market." So, miracle of miracles!, they were now using it on patients, and so I guess we are expected to believe that they resolved their uncertainties in less than 4 weeks, and by late September, the process worked well enough to begin using it on the public. I suspect that they planned to introduce the process all along, as they stated in the 28 July press-release. Also, note that they have not announced any move to file for FDA clearance to make any greater claims than they could make for the original process. FDA allowed them to claim only a hair reduction for up to 3 months. So they do not even have permission to claim the 6 to 12 months hair reduction claimed by Lehman Bros back in May. So I see NO reason at all to believe that SoftLight 2.0 will be significantly more effective than SoftLight 1.0.



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